Well this is the first game on my list that hasn't got a clear, or obvious link back to anime or Japanese culture in anyway shape or form, I think! So score one for variety! It does though pander to one of my other vices... Pirates. Look, there's no point me denying it, I think parrots and peg legs are utterly cool. I like saying things like 'avast me hearties' and 'shiver me timbers'! Yeah OK, and like Michael Bolton I might just love Jack Sparrow a bit too much! I've also been waiting for a good excuse to buy these Pirate boats from Ainsty Castings, God I love those. I do though have a confession of sorts to make right at the start of this article. While doing these blogs on games that 'intrigue me' I contacted, or tried contacting as many people as I could at the companies responsible for the games. Primarily asking as many irritating questions as I could of the games companies involved about their respective products. In doing my research I happened to ask Freeboter Miniatures if they had any free to download quick start rules so I could have a brief perusal of them.
Arrrgghhhh, it's a pirate! Captain Rosso to be precise! |
I got a very polite email back from somebody named Christian. Christian, who is a gentleman and a scholar I'll have you know, informed me that the starter sets have quick start rules in them and that they intended to get a set of quick start rules up on their website soon. He also said he'd send me a printed copy of the quick start rules. Brilliant! Anyway I went to pick up a package from my local Post Office and when I opened it I found a copy of the full rulebook, some playing cards and the Pirate starter set. Now I just want to make it clear I don't go around asking for free stuff... much!!! But hey, if someone offers it me I won't say no, and it's always appreciated, unless it's Dreadfleet. So again as always please bear that in mind as you read my thoughts on this game. Although in all honestly I was close to taking the plunge anyway as a friend, Dr Warlock over at Pulp Planet had done a good write up on Freebooter's Fate and had nothing but good things to say about it... and well, as I said I love pirates and the miniatures look ace.
Goblins fight their way across a rickety bridge to face some Pirates!!! |
Company: Freebooter Miniatures are the brain child of respected sculptor Werner Klocke. They're based in Oberhausen, which is in the Northwest of Germany and part of a highly built up conurbation just north of Cologne that includes Essen, Dusseldorf and Dortmund amongst others. It's right at the heartland of western Europe, just over the border from Holland Belgium and Luxembourg. Freeboter Miniatures have been in existence since 2002 I believe and have therefore weathered what many would deem to be the two year risk period to new companies and then some, it also means that 2012 is their 10th anniversary maths fans. So they've been around a while. Freebooters Fate the game though was first published in 2010, and is therefore only just now entering its second year of existence. Freebooters Fate is their first wargame as a company. Many of the miniatures in the Freebooters Fate range existed before the actual game did. Freebooter Miniatures has 3 full time employees the aforementioned Werner Klocke and Christian Trinczek, the third musketeer being Dorothe Poll. They also wanted me to mention the huge support they get from the likes Hendrik Mell and Franz Sander.
Website: Freebooters Fate
The Queen of Shadows Leader from the Brotherhood faction |
Starting cost: Well they're actually surprisingly low again. Here in the UK you can pick a starter set up for £22.50 and that includes a free set of quick start rules. A deck of specialist playing cards (which you'll need) to play the game will set you back roughly a further £7.50, and that's good enough for two people. This is because two gamers use the same deck of cards as you play. There are two rulebooks now though, the main Freebooters Fate rulebook, which will set you back about £22, and the Deep Jungle Expansion book, which will cost a further £22 or thereabouts. Obviously you don't need to grab both rulebooks straight away. Nope, a starter set and some cards and you're good to go. As with all the skirmish games I now play I think this is the genius of them. For a really small outlay I get hours and hours of fun and can be playing the game very quickly after my initial purchase. It also makes buying new factions nice and easy on the old bank balance as well. So if Pirates are your thing then I guess Freebooters Fate is a pretty darn good option.
See look, Pirates on a desert island. What more does a game need? |
Game: well here's where Christians decision to send me the rulebook and some miniatures pays dividends I guess. Because I can now wax lyrical about the game and how it plays. So on that score I guess the freebies have influenced this articles depth, but (hopefully) not my opinion on it as a product. However, I do urge Freebooter Miniatures to get the PDF of the quick start rules up on their website ASAP. Because I think once more people see how quick and fun the game is, the more people will want to play it. So where do I start? Well those Europeans have done away with good old Imperial measurements and brought in Metric measurements, yep it's all in centimeter's!!! I guess though, the biggest thing would be that Freebooters Fate uses cards to play the game as opposed to dice. Now I'm sure many of you will be thinking "oh like Malifaux you mean?" well yes and no. You see it's not a 'straight' deck of cards like Malifaux is, with just the 'suits' changed to force you to buy a 'branded' set of cards. Nope, you have to buy the branded set of cards for Freebooters Fate because they're different.
I bet she'd totally shoot a guy in the dick and not feel bad! |
Some of the cards correspond to various regions of the body you see. Like head, torso, left arm and so on and so forth! Both players will have a set of these cards each. They work like this, if I make an attack against you I get to target a number of regions on your miniatures body, based on my stats. Meanwhile you get to defend a number of regions on your body based on your stats. You with me so far? So lets say I only get to target two areas of your body, but you being a big hard pirate get to defend 4 parts of your body. In secret I chose which areas to attack and you do likewise for defending yourself. Now being as though it's me, you know I'm going to pick to shoot you in the head and probably the crotch (its actually called abdomen... but they're not fooling anybody!). You though unwisely chose to defend your left arm, right arm, torso and head. Now the defending of your arms and torso was a waste of time. However, wisely choosing to defend your head means that attack of mine is negated.
A group of Assassin ganging up on a poor little Goblin... hardly seems fair! Just the way I like it!!! |
However, like Butters off of South Park I've shot a guy in the dick! So where do we go from here? Well apart from the fact that I shot you in the dick, which means we're probably no longer friends, we have to resolve my dick shot! Well that's done using a separate 'pool' of cards with numbers and other symbols on them. I draw a card and add an attribute depending on what type of attack it is and and you do likewise with your obligatory defence stat. Both cards are drawn from the same deck and the person with the highest overall score wins and damage is dealt depending on the margin of win. Simple, fun and fluid. There's an element of the old poker face in it as well I guess with targeting body parts. But there is way more to the game than just shooting people in the dick, even though any game that lets you shoot guys in the dick must be cool. But there are loads of other nifty things.
A simple one being square bases. Honestly I thought it was a little strange to see a skirmish game with square bases. I'm more used to seeing various types of round bases deployed for skirmish games, be they the beveled or lipped variety. However, I have to say I'm now scratching my head and wandering why more skirmish games don't actually use square bases. Why? Well the 180 degree arcs we get in skirmish games! Lets face it they often cause a bit of, normally heated, debate. We paint white lines or whatever on either side of our bases to draw our arcs from. Sometimes this can cause 'issues' as some people try to take advantage of this, yes I've seen it happen! But what if we already had those lines designated for us as part of the base? Oh say like the back of the base being the line taken as the 180 degree arc? Simple and effective, and I quite like it. I'm sure it can't have been the first game to have used it, and I'm sure one of you lot will tell me if a game has used it before. But what it does do is remove lots of doubt, and speaks to a game that has been properly thought through and game tested. As do many other similar touches.
Miniatures: Right here's the thing. I've often heard people say that the Freebooters Fate miniatures aren't very good. Many seem to dismiss them far too readily, and do so without ever having seen them in the flesh. To be blunt I don't think that's fair. Werner Klocke has a unique sculpting style all of his own, he really does. And I'm really not too sure his faces and proportions photograph well. The desaturated colour schemes that many of the studio miniatures are given also doesn't make them necessarily jump off of the screen at you either. As subtle, well painted and well realised they are, I think many hobbyists are used to seeing bright bold primary colours on studio paint jobs. Now I happen to think the paint work is very naturalistic and realistic, and the fabrics in particular are brilliant, but they're subtle. I think Jen Haley, Marike Reimer and Matt Verzani are responsible for much of it too. So it's not bad work, its just not the usual vibrant, primary, saturated colours many are used to. The final piece of the jigsaw though is the actual artwork of Freebooters Fate. To the left and above you'll see one of the many cool pencil line drawings that festoon the pages of the rulebook. I think when you see the artwork you'll realise just how cool the scuplts actually are. And I assure you they are really good. They capture the comic or cartoon shape of the faces beautifully, in particular the eyes. They also capture the proportions very well, and it's clear to me that Werner has a keen artistic eye, and an ability to realise a highly stylised 2D image into a damn fine 3D reproduction. And also do so in a strangely close to true scale way. It's unique, and I guess not everyone will 'get' it, or like it. But I do. If you get a chance to flick through the rulebook at your local game store and compare the miniature range to the pictures I'm sure you'll all see what I mean. With that out of the way I guess I can talk about casting quality, and as you'd expect from those efficient Germans it's all top notch! They all come with a really cool scenic base insert as standard too, which I think is a nice touch. The game also uses square bases as I said above, which sates that particular urge I've had since giving up on Warhammer Fantasy Battle.
One of the new Amazon models, the newest Freebooter faction. |
Background: The back story to Freebooters Fate actually draws very heavily from our own history. In particular that of the Spanish Empire and its discovery of the New World. Mirroring that history we have a tale of a strong and powerful Imperial force spreading out across the seas, discovering a new land of wealth and opportunity. Just as with our own history, there are a cluster of small islands in the Freebooters Fate back story, much like the Caribbean islands in our reality. They were once a land of wealth and prosperity, a sunny paradise. These islands are centred around the main island of Leonera and its capital Puerto Alto. Times used to be good, as this cluster of Islands used to be the main stop off point for shipping to and from the New World. But then some clever navigator went and screwed things up by finding a shorter and quicker route. These once prosperous islands that used to thrive of off the passing trade have since fallen on hard times, and the Empires grasp on them has started to falter. Stupid bloody navigator! All is not well...
Half naked jungle ladies versus pirates |
There are five full factions in the world of Freebooters Fate. These are Pirates, Imperial, Pirate Goblins, Brotherhood and Amazons. The Amazons have been added to the game in the recent Amazons add on book (unsurprisinly). I don't currently own the Amazon book, so my knowledge of them isn't all that great. They do however appear to be scantily clad vixens intent on causing pain. That's a good thing right? Hopefully I'll get a job soon and be able to afford the add on book, which I'll then review for you all. So lets start with the pirates shall we? Well they're pirates, replete with peg legs, parrots and cutlasses. These scurvy ridden sea dogs are out for gold, rum and a rollicking good time. They're obviously not too concerned with how they get said gold or rum, and certainly wouldn't be wracked with guilt or moral dilemma if they had to spill a little blood to get it. preferably yours. From what I've seen of the rules they're the good solid average faction, being OK at close quarters and OK at range. In the back story they've started to become more and more powerful and what was once known as Puerto Alto has now been renamed, Longfall by them.
I love the Goblin Pirate faction as they're so jammed full of character! |
Next up we have the Imperial Armada. The good guys ostensibly I guess, the supposed law in the land trying to keep a lid on the more unsavoury elements kicking around Puerto Alto, or Longfall depending on your allegiances. They seem to be the shooty force to me, with pretty good ranged attacks and not so good close quarters abilities. They're beset on all sides, and not just by the pirates it would seem. Next up are the Goblin Pirates, yeah OK so they're pirates as well. But these ones have green skin, so that means they're different to normal pirates. In the back story they're jungle creatures, that were turned into servants and slaves. Fed up with being pushed around they decided they too would like a piece of the action. As with most Goblin factions in wargames, they're not really the most muscular or brave. In gameplay terms they go for weight of numbers and some quite wacky weaponry it seems to help them win the day. They're the characterful flavour to the game.
Goblins storm and Imperial Armada defensive position... Yes that is a Goblin in a wheelbarrow!!! |
Finally we have the Brotherhood. When I saw these guys I have to be honest part of me wanted to say 'my name is Ezio Auditore da Firenze and I will have my revenge', I didn't of course *ahem* but it was tempting. These guys and gals are Assassins, and as everybody knows Assassins are cool... unless you happen to be the target of one, in which case they're just mean! So what's their motivation? Nobody knows! Typically they're being all secretive and shadowy. They've got an agenda, it's just no one is really too sure what it is, or even if the Brotherhood exist. Obviously they do because they're a faction you can choose to play, and what a faction they are! The Brotherhood are close combat specialists that like to get in close and slit your throat. They're clearly the best faction I've seen at killing people up close... hence why I own them! there's a sixth faction of sorts, although they're not a proper faction, and that's the mercenaries. These are sell swords who'll fight for anyone if the price is right. So that's the main thrust of the world of Freebooters Fate. Can you tell I've taken more than a passing interest in this game?
Another one of the Brotherhoods Assassin miniatures, so very, very cool. |
Pro's:
+ It's Pirates for Gods sake, do you need anymore pro's?
+ OK then, it's a really fast paced fun game. With bags and bags of character and neat game play mechanics.
+ It has really, really low start up costs like many small scale skirmish games.
+ The miniatures are a really nice quality and are quite unique.
+ The whole back story, universe and product is very well developed. It's high quality stuff.
+ I've found it relatively easy to get other gamers interested in the game because of the other points.
+ Did I mention that it has pirates in it?
Con's:
- Those miniatures aren't going to be to everyone's tastes.
- The unique little game play mechanic although cool, will alienate some people.
- There are lots of small skirmish games out there at the moment, some people might not want to add another to their gaming roster.
So I'm being honest here, I genuinely liked what I saw when I started mooching around the Freebooters Fate stuff. But why? Well when I look at the games I play or collect most of them sate a desire I have, or feed other interests. Normally though that's not enough, for me there is the Holy Trinity of gaming.
- Nice looking miniatures - check
- Good looking serviceable rules - check
- Interesting and engaging back story (including artwork) - check (it's pirates)
And Freebooters Fate has all three for me. I love me some pirates, I'm sure if you ask most people they'll admit to having a soft spot for them too. I like the miniatures, and the rules are solid, in no way ambiguous and lead to fun, fluid and tactical games. But there's more to it than that. This game also currently sits in the same spot that Malifaux used to occupy. Insofar that it is a really small skirmish game that has characterful factions and interesting play mechanics. Whereas I feel Malifaux has started to become bloated and suffer from rules creep and paralysis, Freebooters Fate has stuck with simple universal rules and profile differentiation to gives factions their character. As such I can see it filling that niche role in my gaming circle as the quick fun skirmish game of choice. I still love Malifaux, but it is becoming a game we have to dedicate time to play, plus negotiate a legal contract before hand to determin what rules we'll be playing. Freebooters Fate is still pick up and play.
The Imperial Armada factions Captain Leon... you'll need a can opener! |
I guess I've been able to cover this game in way more detail because Freebooter Miniatures sent me some swag, or should that be booty? And much appreciated it was too. However, like Bushido before it, I kinda knew this was one of the games I was looking at that I was going to take the plunge with anyway. It was nice to be given the helping hand though! I do think the game offers some unique play mechanics and a very nice play experience all round. The main rulebook has bags of scenarios to play and is crammed to the brim with information, diagrams and examples, it is a fine product. I'll be reviewing it fully shortly. I'd urge some of you to go out and try the game for yourselves if you can, because I don't think it'll disappoint people. I mean how could it? It's a tactical yet fun, fast paced game about pirates! The only things that I think might be missing from the game are undead pirates, a voodoo / Haitian magic type factions for a pirate game there ought to be more 'pirate' factions I guess. The only advice I'd give to Freebooter Miniatures? Get that free quick start PDF up on your website ASAP and make it clear on your starter sets that a deck of specialist cards are required to play the game. Because if I got home from a shop to find out that even though I'd got my starter set and the rulebook that I couldn't play because I'd forgotten the cards, I'd be a very sad panda. As it is, I'm currently smitten with the game. Peace out!
oh wow, finally. FINALLY, you review a game that i like the theme and minis for (yes, i am fussy). i am going to look into this game in a serious way, it looks and sounds very interesting indeed.
ReplyDeletenote that this isn't a slight on your reviews, which are great, its just that none of them have appealed to me so far :)
Not at all Atreides. I totally understand that wargames and taste in miniatures is really varied. That's why I'm doing articles on multiple games and trying to give them all fair hearing. Hopefully they'll be something for everyone on my list.
DeleteAs for Freebooter's Fate, played a few games and I love it. Genuinely fun game to play. There is an element of bluff and counter bluff with the targeting, so tactic's do come into it. Plus certain areas correspond to attributes. So targeting an opponents strongest attribute or not becomes a game of chicken! It's not Infinity or even say Heavy Gear Blitz in terms of tactical depth, but here's the thing. It doesn't really have to be! Love it!!!
i have been looking at their stuff all day... so cool, i love all the factions.
Deletesadly i am stuck with the same problem as usual, no gaming group other than GW stores within traveling distance, so i am pretty much screwed.
Whereabouts do you live? Surely you've gaming clubs round by you? Rock on down do some intro games. Show people gaming can be fun!
DeleteCentral/West London, there is nothing that i can find, hard to believe though that is. there are a few in the suburbs (which i cant get to) and a few south of the river (impossible on a week night, given where i work) so i am pretty stuffed. crazy, considering it is the capital city, but i think the combination of high fees for limited space, lack of venues, and the fact that few people live in the centre mean they just don't exist.
DeleteNo actually I would believe it. I know plenty of people who live or have lived in central London and they all tell me the same. For Wargaming it is a cultural wasteland. I'll put some feelers out for you though. I know there was a club near Camden at one point that stoically did everything but GW games, although that was in the early naughties.
DeleteAtreides - I'm pretty certain that Toby, Goron and the rest of the guys over at GCT (creators of Bushido) are all based in London. They're friendly guys and could probably point you in the direction of a club or two. Or you could try the UKCoRD Forum, there are guys on there from all over the UK.
DeleteAtreides, can you be more specific about central/west London?
Delete@Baragash, i live in West Kensington. also, i actually do have a car, so i am not technically restricted by tube/bus routes.
Delete@Paul B, thanks for the tip man, appreciated.
Another of the skirmish games i am interested in but this is the one i have the most problems with, after malifaux my group will not play games without dice :( and the pirate theme does not float their boats.
ReplyDeleteNow if you can fit pulp city in for a review you will have covered them all lol.
That is a shame Ishibei because genuinely Freeboters Fate plays absolutely nothing like Malifaux and the deck of cards you both pull from is the same. No cheating fate and having your own deck. It actually works really quickly and actually isn't any different to dice. Send them to this article, see if I can't convince one or two of them to give it a go! :P
DeleteAs for Pulp City, it is on the list of games to look at, but it's a very long way down the line I'm afraid. Superheroes should totally float this geeks boat... but Pulp City has never grabbed me all that much for some reason. Couldn't really tell you why though, which is a bit weird.
Probably due to the old minis being a bit scary with the sculpting but it has got better
DeleteMy friends can be a bit stiff when it cones to change anyway and one of explicitly said why play a pirate mini game when we can play a pirate rpg.
I will try an send them here though as its a good read
Well it's clearly your job to loosen them up a bit then I guess!!! Look there are free quick start rules in the starter sets, grab a couple of starters and force a few of them to have some games. Seriously they'll be wanting to hop on board the fun train in no time at all.
DeleteIt is so much simpler than Malifaux.... after a 15 minute demo, I was hooked and now run demo games myself.
DeleteMalifaux didn't put them off cards it cemented the "i prefer dice" opinion they went in with and i love the malifaux system and think they are nuts
DeleteAlso who the hell doesnt like pirates!!??!!
though over the last year i have pimped or tried to pimp Malifaux, Dystopian wars, Infinity, Bushido and the beginings of Heavy Gear on them so can't blame them.
Another great read :)
ReplyDeletePulp City is an awesome game so you should definitely check it out :)
I am ashamed to say I have a Pirate crew for Freebooters Fate that I picked up at their Salute launch a couple of years ago...yet have sat still unmade and hidden away from me.....:(
I really should get the rules and give the game a whirl.....Drew (doc warlock) chastised me a while back for not doing so.....lol
Well you scurvy land lauber ye should consider this further admonishment!!!! Ye lilly livered cankerous worm!!!
DeleteAhem... you should definitely give it a go Darth, it's such a good laugh. It tickles me sometimes, the idea of shooting a pirates good leg off just makes me grin...
It does look really cool......it's just another one of those games I want to play but can't seem to find the time (or money) for
DeleteMaybe I should have a mass hobby cull and sell off all my old gw stuff that is gathering dust then that'll give me some cash to spend on funky looking skirmish games and board games.....hmmmmmmm
plus I really like the look of the amazons......
I picked this up and had it shipped from france, the moment it came out. The rule book is very nice the minis are fantastic. The problem nobody wanted to play it, so i ebayed the lot.
Deleteblistering barnacles!!! What's wrong with people?!?! Honestly this game is way too much fun for people to just dismiss it. I know what some of you have faced though. So many people have said that at first glance the miniatures don't look that nice. They are, they're lovely! The rulebook is one of the best written and laid out books I've brought in recent years and the game is fanbloodytastic. Some of you guys need to become gaming evangelists!!!!
DeleteThe only thing to be ashamed of here is that you haven't done anything with your beautiful miniatures.
DeleteThanks for the compliment. I'll take a look at your blog.
ReplyDeleteI picked up a Brotherhood starter box, some other cool looking models, rulebook and cards at last years Salute and am sorry to say that these have sat in a drawer still boxed ever since :(
ReplyDeleteWhen I first saw the models I fell in love with them and was suprised when the mate I was at Salute with didn't seem all that enthusiastic about them; it seems that they could be the Marmite of the gaming scene. The minis obviously aren't in the same league as some of the boutique ranges but I'd rate them up there with the best of the Infinity range.
I really do need to dig these out and get gaming; my new years resolution has again been to get my arse into gear and get to my local gaming group on a regular basis so hopefully I can rope some of the guys there into playing.
I'm glad you had a good experience with the guys behind the game; as soon as I saw the post about Freebooter's fate I made a note to leave a comment about how friendly they were at Salute. Having seen the miniatures I knew I was going to go back and pick up some bits, I'm glad I did as the guys on the stand were really friendly, happy to chat, answered loads of questions and went through the game mechanics with me. I always find that the vast majority of the guys at gaming shows/events are some of the nicest people you could hope to meet but the guys at Freebooter stood out as some of the best.
Now, the reason I haven't ended up doing anything with the bits that I've got for the game is down to scenery. I always like to try and only play games with painted minis and on suitable terrain and a lot of the games I have tend to be playable on terrain which is suitable for multiple systems, however, a gang of pirates are going to look a bit silly rampaging through a futuristic urban environment and I haven't been able to find the time to knock up a pirate dock to play on (especially seeing as it'll be limited to use in Freebooter's Fate games).
One last thing that I want to add is that, for those people that like the minis, it's worth looking at some of the special edition minis they sometimes release, these aren't for any of the factions but are some nice stand alone models.
Yep I've found Christian to be really friendly and very helpful. Ask a question, get an answer. It's just another reason to like the game really. I think it helps to be honest with you if the companies behind these games have friendly helpful staff, like Odin at GCT for Bushido and John Nguyen at Dream Pod 9 for Heavy Gear Blitz.
DeleteI've been eyeing this up for a while, so thanks for writing this! I have a couple of their non-FF models which I really like as well, so happy with the models.
ReplyDeletePleasure my good man. It's kind of what I do! :)
DeleteSome people round here seem to think it's my life's ambition to make every war gamer bankrupt!!! :P
Lol, no offence, but I don't need your help ;)
DeletePMSL, that's the thing I don't think anyone does I'm just a convenient scape goat!!! Bally unfair old chap.
DeleteI will echo others on here and congratulate you for such a great write up.
ReplyDeleteI did pick up the rules for FF a while back but there was unfortunatly no interest.(like all the other pirate games Ive tried to start) People found the individual mini cost abit high for a game that wasnt going to be played on a regular basis.
Its a shame really.
Thanks Hendy. I don't think the cost is that expensive really. Think about it what does £22.50 get you in a GW game? A unit? Well in Freebooters Fate it get you an entire game to play. 300 to 500 doubloons is the average game and that's roughly 4or 5 models to 7 or 8. Not a lot really and as a quick game about 60 mins to play you can cycle through them quite quickly. Honestly it's the first game in a long time that has genuinely made me and my opponent laugh. I'm me what other game allows you to remove a miniature from play by getting to crippling shots on a mans family jewels? I mean what's not to love about that?
DeleteThe starter boxes are good value but thier problem was the minis after that. Not everyone wanted the ones in the boxes and the ones they liked were £10 each. Thats 8-10 models in other pirate skirmish games.
DeleteIm a massive pirate fan and love the fact you can take your opponent out piece by piece.
I guess my group of friends just look at things differently. I'd rather spend £8 to £10 on an exceptional single sculpt that
DeleteA) Isn't made of rubbery crap
B) Totally changes how I play that game and how my force works
and
C) Is a fricking Pirate!!! lol.
It does make me chuckle somewhat when people used to say to me I don't think spending £10 per miniature is good value for money. I say it depends n what the miniature is. Thankfully more people are waking up to the fact that £2.50 for identikit plastic rank and file miniatures is more of a rip of for a exceedingly well sculpted and superbly cast metal miniature of undeniable quality.
As I always say with quality models, you need to physically put them in peoples hands. So much of what we discern in an items 'quality' is communicated via touch. Sadly there aren't many places on this blasted Isle where we can do that. It's truly I believe what is hampering the growth of some of these alternative games. You used to be a Press Ganger, well Press Gang some people!!! And you call yourself a pirate :P
Truthfully though, I've had similar comments back myself. However, put the mini's in their hands and get them playing the game and my sucke... I mean friends totally loved it. I think that's the thing with wargamers, we really do want to try before we buy.
Im currently Press Ganging them into 4 other games. 2 of which are Pirate based.
DeleteThere are alot of nice metal pirate scuplts out there that are 'identikit' but are alot cheaper. The Black Scorpion range for example.
Will give it another try in the future
lol. That's the spirit!!! :)
DeleteI'm not so sure about the Black Scorpion mini's anymore if I'm honest with you. I saw some of their white metal Pirate Elves up close, and I don't think they're very good actually. I know they've moved to resin, but the problem wasn't the substance they were made of, they just weren't very good.
I love the Black scorpion models. Got all the Pirates and Undead and think they are some of the most realistic looking pirates out there.
DeleteI was going to comment on the individual price too. It is high for single models. But, I believe that each model comes with its own sculpted base top, doesn't it? I picked up the clockwork fairys, and it seemed that half of the metal was in the base...
DeleteOh bugger, my lazy attitude has meant my @ symbol has to make a return.
Delete@Hendy, I'll take your word for it. I'm currently trying to find somebody with some more of them because I really wasn't impressed with the elves that I saw. However, some people have told me they're really good so I really don't want to judge an entire range on just 4 miniatures. Not that I would, but right now if I write an article on Cutlass I'll do so off of the back of only seeing 4 miniatures, there rules tables and a horribly botched and messy game intro over at BoW, whereby they clearly didn't know the rules to their own game. That could be a little unfair, so I'd like to see more of Cutlass and Black Scorpion for myself and if I don't I'll either scrap covering the game or go with what I've seen.
@Fiendil, I guess I look at the Freebooters mini's at around £9 then see the GW's crappy Finecast mini's and £10+ and just think bargain. These things are exceptionally well cast, in a high quality metal and yep they do all come with a detailed base insert. You also really don't need that many miniatures so faction cost or start up costs are seriously low.
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ReplyDeleteI am an anonymous poster that represents a consortium of poor, broke gamers who can barely afford to eat as it is.
....wait, I DID log on anonymously, right?
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Well, we demand that you cease and desist these game introduction posts IMMEDIATELY.
WE CAN'T AFFORD ANY MORE FRIGGIN' STUFFS!
Hold on, some of our constituants are tapping me on the shoulder, requesting I add the following statements:
- Holy crap this is cool...Pirates rock, period.
Adding a dash of fantasy was simply brilliant.
The constituants seem very excited....they're touching themselves in an impure manner...
STOP IT YOU FOOLS! He's using his persuasive powers on you again!
Look away, before the modle pics and his desciptive powers lure you in!
- The minis are brilliant and amazing! The famale models are just the right amount of sexy and dangerous, and OH MY GOD THAT GOBLIN IS WEARING A LOBSTER SUIT WITH LITTLE STILTS!
They're nicely dynamic, and little details like the goblin poking out from the Queen of Shadows petticoats are just...just...
The constituants demand I order the Amazon with the mask...because she's simply da awesome...even if she eerily resembles 40k's Lelith...it's cool, cuz we luvs Lelith, too.
WE'RE HERE TO MAKE DEMANDS, knuckleheads, not fall under his evil sway again!
Sigh...
So...our organization DEMANDS to know who doesn't like them, so we can form an angry mob...we've got torches already...
(See? Demands! Nyah)
- We also like the 'square base' mechanic. We enjoy using something similar in Flames of War, and there's nary an argument about 'field of fire' as a result.
Good game design and mechanics begin with the simple things.
Square bases is a good idea when models have to turn and face stuffs or 'flanking' is involved.
The constituants give you a sage nod for pointing this out...
Stupid constituants- DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM!
Wait...were did the constituants go?
Oh...damnit they're hitting the Freebooter site...
-_-
Constituants are weak...WEAK I SAY!
In conclusion, while I TOTALLY DO NOT open another tab and ogle even more cool stuffs (hate you), I'd just like to say, on behalf of all the poor, broken gamers you leave in your wake:
YOU STOP THIS RIGHT NOW!
And furthermore...
...
Oh, forget it...I've got ogling to do...and impure touching...
Hate you.
@ Frontline:
DeleteApologies for this...
It seems the Hamster that live in my head got out today, and found my computer in 'sleep mode' again.
After his usual perusal of 'Gerbil Fap Channel Dot Com,' and subsequent keyboard clean up, he decided to review my browsing history...
After his perusal of all the Megan Fox fan sites, where he left embarrassing comments documenting some of my more clandestine pursuits (DON'T YOU JUDGE ME), he came here.
He's an angry lil' hobbyist, it seems...and broke, like most of us...
Again, apologies.
He's properly medicated again, and secure in my skull where he belongs.
Stupid Hamster...He knows there's CATS around here...
;)
The constituents have informed me that once they're done tracking down all the fools that don't think these mdels are da awesome, they're coming for YOU, Frontline...
Delete...cuz of that Micheal Bolton link...
...WE CAN'T UN-HEAR THAT NOW!
..something about shooting you in the dick...
DeleteSinSynn and Mr Hamster in SinSynns head don't worry I'll be slowing these articles down a little bit. I've got some actual reviews to do. However, I do have to warn you that ultimately there will be more of them in the future as they're already pretty much written. I know that makes me a cad and a bounder. But seriously I don't care, because I love wargames and you love wargames!!! It's what we geeks and nerds do! :)
DeleteWell then...
DeleteWe demand less Micheal Bolton links, then!
What SinSynn said!
DeleteSinsynn I think I can at the very least accede to the less Micheal Bolton links demand.
DeleteMerry Vulture, so glad you could stop by old bean. Always good to see a new face round these parts. Especially when the chap is such an amiable fellow, like your good self Sir! As I explained to the many tentacled Xenos above, I will be slowing my own articles down a bit, but I am afraid there will be more. I would like to pass the blame though onto all the frightfully talented chaps and chapesses round the world developing such wonderous means of wargaming entertainement. Surely one can't be blamed for simply reporting on their undeniable brilliance? Seems rather harsh to me Sir, I am after all only the messenger! ;)
Right. That's the ninjas (well, Bushido) and the pirates covered. Now you need to review a game about zombies (Cult of Yurei notwithstanding) and a game about vikings.
ReplyDeleteAnd possibly one about dinosaurs.
Then you've covered all the major tropes.
Actually, Yu-Jing have ninjas too, so they're represented.
DeleteYu Jing also have Zombies of a sort... the Kuang Shi. I've covered Kings of War too and they have zombies. Plus I'll say that Infinity has dinosaurs covered... the Shasvastii!!! :) Just missing Vikings I guess. Hmmm.
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