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Quiclhonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07986562122127606728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-78080129252437895992021-11-30T12:54:27.871+00:002021-11-30T12:54:27.871+00:00The final fantasy XIV game is loved by a lot of on...The final fantasy XIV game is loved by a lot of online gaming fans, plus they can utilize a reliable site identified as MMOGAH to grab the ffxiv gil within the <strong><a href="https://www.mmogah.com/ffxiv-gil" rel="nofollow">ff14 gil</a></strong> game. Better is to click this link or visit our professional web site to learn more regarding ffxiv gil. Lytorurnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14668199182533250126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-81863938946923117732012-06-22T19:49:55.369+01:002012-06-22T19:49:55.369+01:00I put together my own list of games. It was really...I put together my own list of games. It was really interesting looking back and made me quite nostalgic.<br /><br />http://polyhedroncollider.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/games-that-define-us.htmlStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586499827285953235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-8571934168969194162012-06-06T16:45:59.893+01:002012-06-06T16:45:59.893+01:00Thanks I'll give it a read later on.Thanks I'll give it a read later on.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-81480771655891132182012-06-06T15:12:11.935+01:002012-06-06T15:12:11.935+01:00And although its not in nearly the same detail I s...And although its not in nearly the same detail I started a thread on TMP about it. You can see their responses here:<br />http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=270251<br /><br />Its hard to get an idea of what portion of the world those responses come from. I pointed them back here as the starting point.Heislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825061407797980077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-37380464138316497262012-06-06T09:01:51.127+01:002012-06-06T09:01:51.127+01:00Dustcrusher, I'm sorry my good man, but I seem...Dustcrusher, I'm sorry my good man, but I seem to have missed your replay somehow. Not quite sure how, but sorry nevertheless.<br /><br />That's a pretty solid list of games actually. The only things I never came into contact with personally is some of the CCG's you mention (how was that Panda conservation game for you :P ) and Warzone? It's interesting to see the route into the hobby people take ad the games that seem to crop up again and again as seminal moments, no matter where you are from, Necromunda, Blood Bowl, D&D Red Box, HeroQuest etc.<br /><br />Cheers for sharing and sorry I didn't pick up on it sooner.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-59932550393724191992012-06-06T08:52:12.861+01:002012-06-06T08:52:12.861+01:00Thanks for giving it a go. I'll try to pop alo...Thanks for giving it a go. I'll try to pop along at some point today and take a look.<br /><br />CheersFrontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-29505912083183231172012-06-06T08:51:32.989+01:002012-06-06T08:51:32.989+01:00Well I went and had a look and left a comment. I d...Well I went and had a look and left a comment. I do think what I've started has tripped over into meme territory now!!! <br /><br />:PFrontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-17793457358929435602012-06-06T02:22:02.574+01:002012-06-06T02:22:02.574+01:00And following in line from AHunt, I have posted a ...And following in line from AHunt, I have posted a list on my blog as well. Although I had to go to twelve. I break the North American pattern by only a narrow margin, probably because I'm a bit older.<br />My first was AH's Gettysburg<br />http://wargamesandrailroads.blogspot.com/2012/06/games-that-define-us.htmlHeislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825061407797980077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-41847932589243078442012-06-05T20:42:49.178+01:002012-06-05T20:42:49.178+01:00I have, finally gotten around to responding to thi...I have, finally gotten around to responding to this. It's posted on my blog, here: http://ahunt-dulceetdecorum.blogspot.com/2012/06/games-that-define-us.html<br /><br />To give you the short answer here. I seem to fit the pattern with more RPG's early on, leading to minis later.AHunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08148857673973402238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-39120026852064887462012-05-23T19:13:55.911+01:002012-05-23T19:13:55.911+01:00Too many details- click my name for the full versi...Too many details- click my name for the full version:<br /><br />10. D&D Red Box edition. Got killed by 4 giant frogs in my first adventure because I didn't know spells were once per day in that system. I knew only video games prior to this so I figured at worst I could use Magic Missile two or three times, right? Left a bad taste in my mouth, but it also left a mark.<br /><br />9. AD&D 1st Edition. Our group treated 2nd Ed (new at the time) as good for fluff, good for letting elves have unlimited wizard levels and dwarves unlimited fighter levels, crap for the rest. "Assassin's a class, not a profession!" still sticks out in my mind. The first game that got me into writing fluff in the form of character backgrounds.<br /><br />8. Ral Partha Miniatures. Not a game technically, but a milestone nonetheless. I noticed miniatures for the first time in a local geek-of-all-trades store that is sadly long gone. Got a pack of Partha minis, then more, started painting with the intent to use them with D&D of some kind.<br /><br />7. Blood Bowl. This is the insidious bastard that hooked me. Saw BB minis in my first issue of White Dwarf, saved up and bought 2nd Edition (and cheated with rerolls on occasion, to my sister's annoyance). Even my parents liked the fluff: Dad for the football references, Mom for the sheer slapstick. <br /><br />This game is the reason I shake my head at all of the Jervis-haters out there- Blood Bowl is still an awesome game (even more so now) and he's the reason we have it, and why I'm not just a role-player.<br /><br />6. Heroquest. I still have my copy, and I even have the rare-in-the-US Barbarian Quest Pack. I didn't get to play it all that much, but I did enjoy it and man oh man, so much cool stuff in the box! I'm adding Dark World since I got it a few months later- while the game was mediocre, the components were quite good and they used a click-dial health system at least a decade before Wizkids.<br /><br />5. Necromunda. This is the game that made me a GW believer. The rules weren't perfect (stinkin' Van Saar and their stupid tech-abuse!) but the campaign was a blast. I was a terrible player yet by campaign's end in college everyone had a pretty solid gang and each gang had a resident badass. Good times, lots of fun stories told. This is the game that made me realize I am the type who plays to watch amazing and ridiculous stories unfold on the table.<br /><br />4. Multiple CCGs. On the Edge, L5R, Overpower, WWF Raw Deal (don’t laugh- it was easy to learn with an elegant damage mechanic and counter system…to begin with), Heresy (Awesome fluff and production values, gameplay 95% Magic clone). All in all, good times, but even tabletop seems less expensive.<br /><br />3. Warzone 1st Edition. Other than the minis (ranged from solid to awful), they took 2nd Edition 40k and made it better in every way. D20 based system with much cleaner combat rules, a wide variety of units and wargear, and fluff that felt like 40k's but "grown up" with humans behaving like humans. First fanfic I ever wrote was in the Warzone universe (sadly, the stories are lost).<br /><br />2. 40k 3rd and 5th Editions. First real play of 40k was 3rd edition- I lost my first game narrowly, tabled my foe second game, drew my third, then lost interest. Fast forward to last year and my first game of 40k 5th- I actually think 5th works fine at 1000-1500 points, but larger than that and I start to hate it. It's just not my style- I'd need something more abstract (Kings of War) or smaller in size (Epic) to play games like this. 40k at typical point totals induces a near-claustrophobic effect in me.<br /><br />1. Malifaux. This game brought back my love of the hobby. Got Rasputina's starter on a lark with a small order of 40k stuff. Got the Rules Manual. Proxied everything else thanks to most of the Book 1 stat cards being free for download. The game's whacked-out fluff, distinct play style, and unique mechanics got me more interested in gaming again.Dustcrusherhttp://www.wyrd-games.net/blog.php?7924-Dustcrushernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-36911024209784746192012-05-21T23:01:38.845+01:002012-05-21T23:01:38.845+01:00Honestly don't worry about. I asked for people...Honestly don't worry about. I asked for people to let me know, and you have. Genuinely I don't mind walls of text. It lets me know what you guys are up to and what your experiences are. I'm genuinely interested, it's one of the reasons I started this Blog. As to a game that couples RPG like character creation and is a tabletop game... hmm I'm not too sure. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-86726627535470891822012-05-21T22:51:22.940+01:002012-05-21T22:51:22.940+01:00Sorry for the wall of text. I just worked an oddba...Sorry for the wall of text. I just worked an oddball third and spent all night in the OR checking medical equipment. This particular peice has a 26 page procedure to follow and had all night to sit and gather my thoughts. Then decided this morning after the third phone call on our land line to put my thoughts down. I tend to ramble when I am tired <br /><br />By the way do you know of any games currently that combines the roleplaying style character creation with a miniature game?wade410https://www.blogger.com/profile/17319769604908304136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-58248296507131755882012-05-21T20:26:29.537+01:002012-05-21T20:26:29.537+01:00Heya Wade, thanks for taking the time to put your ...Heya Wade, thanks for taking the time to put your thoughts and experience down so thoroughly. I did read it all. =P<br /><br />I have similar feelings and experiences to you with regards to 40k. I obviously never played Battletech pre-3055, well I did, but with my dads stuff and I never really 'got it' at the time. I too can't wait for the Infinity campaign / scenarios expansion book... Hurry up Corvus Belli!!!Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-76021033099399413832012-05-21T20:16:59.436+01:002012-05-21T20:16:59.436+01:001: Star wars CCG
2: Star wars Miniature Battles
3...1: Star wars CCG<br />2: Star wars Miniature Battles <br />3: Battletech<br />4: 40k<br />5: Starship Troopers<br />6: Confrontation/Urban War<br />7: Battletech (rnd 2) <br />8: Heavy Gear blitz<br />9: Infinity<br />Well looking back at my list the most important games to me are number 2-4. The card game ended up being just a segway into the world of miniature games. The first true miniature game that I loved was the Star wars miniature battles. In my opinion (that of a 13 year old I believe) this game had everything. Realistic moral, hidden deployment customizable characters who stats you could adjust more than just their equipment. I have to confess that this is still my GOLD standard I compare everything else to. But alas my first miniature game was already OOP when I bought the box set so all I could do is play it with the miniatures it came with but we had some battles. My next love was Battletech. The main part I enjoyed about this game was how in the early years 3025 every part of the meck was hard to find and that it had such great campaign ability built into the system. I still have over a Battalion painted along with a trinary of Jade Falcons. I never really like the story line after meck started to become common place 3055 in game or so and the fiction started to really fall off in the late 90s. So when FASA closed its doors I moved on. 40k well what can I say, I played it I still have a marine army somewhere but I was never really that thrilled with it. I was an older teen when I started to play and it never really had that "flair" I saw in my previous games. Personally I felt that the game was too simplistic. The stats were always set no way to customize anything except your leader kit. It just never sat well with me. The star wars game gave almost a role playing experience with character creation and squad formation. While Battletech did have the roleplaying aspect I really looked to it for the campaign style play. 40k basically became time filler for me and when I look back I cannot believe how much time and money I spent on something that I only marginally enjoyed. Looking back the only bright spot I see is the Space Wolf novels which I still read today on occasion.<br /><br /> I started Battletech again after the growing pains had subsided from the FASA closing and Catalase Games got their feet under them. This go around I was older more mature and realized that the game designers left the game open how they did so that I could enjoy the game the way I liked it. So this time I have not bought anything newer than the Clan Invasion and still rely on my old books for the themes for my battles. I still got disenfranchised again with this game mainly from how bad FASA had let it slide before their demise but generally I found that when I decided to stop the game in the era I enjoyed I found it to be very enjoyable. Heavy Gear was and is my new giant robot game. I really enjoy that it is technologically more advanced than Battletech and that it plays very fast comparably. I really like how the game allows you to integrate your army into the wider scope of the faction and not have to suspend your unit fluff. Here is an example If I take just marines to fill a force organization chart you are talking about apox. what almost a full company of Marines on the field. If you read the fluff that should is enough to conquer a planet not fight a skirmish. On the other hand I can create a whole force of gears which when compared to the fluff they fit right in with the fluff. Infinity I haven’t got to actually play (wont play with unpainted minis just me) yet but from what I see it is head and shoulder above everything else out there right now I would love to see it with the roleplaying style of hero creation but with how balance it is currently it might through the whole system out of whack. The only glaring fought I see with this game currently is that there are no scenarios yet (can’t wait for the new book)wade410https://www.blogger.com/profile/17319769604908304136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-76999432985014969592012-05-21T10:12:18.000+01:002012-05-21T10:12:18.000+01:00I looked into Mercs a while back. I decided agains...I looked into Mercs a while back. I decided against it on a number of grounds. There's also the fact that a lot of the people who have played the game tell me very mixed things about it as a product. For me Infinity is just a way better skirmish game and I know people who play that. I'm not dismissing Mercs, but I do wander whether the card movement mechanic is a bit too gimicky for me.<br /><br />As to walking into a GW... *sigh*... yeah I'm not so keen on the hard sell. But I actually have very little cause to go and buy stuff from them anymore. I can get better choice of superglue from the shop at the end of my road or the hardware store 10 minutes walk away from my house... it's cheaper too. Plus I know a few store managers and the pressure they're now under to ship product out the door just seems a little bit insane to me.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-3502590970436495332012-05-21T08:55:51.922+01:002012-05-21T08:55:51.922+01:00Yeah I think you're right to an extent. But wh...Yeah I think you're right to an extent. But when I ask my dads friends and gamers of that generation they all spookily say the same games. Not too much variance, right now there's so much stuff going on, I wander whether or not in the future if you were to ask 10 people for 10 lists that there would be two matching lists. That's actually quite exciting you know.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-28624684173845337972012-05-21T08:53:48.257+01:002012-05-21T08:53:48.257+01:00Well I love the fluff and the background... then I...Well I love the fluff and the background... then I put the mini's on the board and I end up shaking my head and asking "what the hell is this?"<br /><br />It's a GW thing I guess. It's easier to spin a yarn than build a decent representation of that yarn using tape measures, dice and toy soldiers. Their games are struggling now.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-46573105802450314702012-05-21T08:51:38.352+01:002012-05-21T08:51:38.352+01:00Yeah, I think wargaming is a great hobby, and cert...Yeah, I think wargaming is a great hobby, and certainly at my last two jobs when people asked me what I was carrying around and they saw my Infinity and Warmachine models there were a fair few people interested. I even converted 3 of them!!! Oh yeah, still got that pimping magic.<br /><br />I already feel sorry for my imaginery offspring, I mean the poss sods first words are likely to be dice, critical hits and shiny! That is of course if I can convince Dr Brainiac to have kids with me, she's still convinced I'm just a big kid!Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-73032400338606213102012-05-21T08:46:50.999+01:002012-05-21T08:46:50.999+01:00That's interesting, that's certainly not t...That's interesting, that's certainly not the case here in the UK. I'd go as far to say that a lot of the people I know who are into their RPGs actually ended up doing things the other way round. They stumbled across RPGs when they went looking for toy soldiers outside of the GW cocoon. Interesting... I might need to research this phenomenon more!!!Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-50310085696285491292012-05-21T00:29:50.243+01:002012-05-21T00:29:50.243+01:00Certainly, I think that' true. As true, in fa...Certainly, I think that' true. As true, in fact, as if you asked people ten years older than me, and got the last of the ones from the previous generation of games, those for whom Rogue Trader was ever a new release. Perhaps that symmetry is fitting. Also, Blood Bowl belongs on the list, I simply forgot it... :(TheKing Elessarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04981821487098781957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-13630556905231788602012-05-16T17:24:07.744+01:002012-05-16T17:24:07.744+01:00He's still quite the purest and was quite piss...He's still quite the purest and was quite pissed at me when my Skaven Army went the way of the Ebay. He keeps trying to get us to play Dreadfleat and still the rest of us deny him that simple plesure.<br /><br />I personally can't even stand going into GW for just a gander now a days. You go into to by some Glue and they try to add on sale you the latest Necron crap. It use to be a laugh but now it's all buy buy buy... if your just looking they don't seem to have time for you. Even if the stores empty.<br /><br />Still, I'm currently looking into Mercs<br />http://www.mercsminis.com/<br />Looks pretty, and from what I've read of the rules. Plays well.<br /><br />-Voidsign-Voidsignhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13298713023295515341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-34428703593494825162012-05-16T12:35:04.286+01:002012-05-16T12:35:04.286+01:00Brian I guess I'm surprised more people haven&...Brian I guess I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned chess.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-83271209210194916222012-05-16T12:34:08.530+01:002012-05-16T12:34:08.530+01:00I guess I'm sort of unique with regards to mos...I guess I'm sort of unique with regards to most gamers I know. Very few were actually indoctrinated by parents like I was. I was playing lots of different things as a kid, and I know my dad was very sad to see me end up dedicating a lot of my gaming time as a teenager to GW. Still don't get the blind loyalty thing that some people have to brands and products. Good to see he likes at least one game outside the GW bubble.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-8650815722747247952012-05-16T11:20:20.637+01:002012-05-16T11:20:20.637+01:00I frequent Wargames Workshop whenever I can. Since...I frequent Wargames Workshop whenever I can. Since they moved from Cranfield I do tend to find their stock a little... well, lacking. And there are trains involved.<br /><br />The guy that owns it was the first Manager of GW Milton Keynes so I have known him for years, though his name excapes me. The fact that ther right accross the road from GW Northampton always tickles me, especially since they sell GW stuff cheaper then the GW store.<br /><br />I tend to head down there to get all my fixes, Close Encounters is a few doors up from WGW so I can get my Manga fix while I'm there.<br /><br />Anyhow...<br /><br />I think that Hero Quest and Space Crusade were joining points for a hell of a lot of people, as we've discussed before. And with GW being in every town almost its hard to escape it in some respects.<br /><br />I feel that moving away from GW is our way of Maturing in the hobby that we love. Once you delve deaper there is a lot more out there and most of it is better priced and a better quality of game. GW tends to draw people in, then after a while they seek greener fields to munch on, but you still get the Hardcore GW Fanatics (with ball and chain). Out of our gaming group only one person now frequents the store, he even baught Dreadfleat.... The almost all the games he plays are GW related, which I feel is a real shame.<br /><br />Though he does enjoy Super Dungeon Explore, which I picked up from Wargames Workshop for £50.00 BTW ^.^<br /><br />-Voidsign-Voidsignhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13298713023295515341noreply@blogger.com