tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post9097305861544748969..comments2024-03-27T07:28:18.776+00:00Comments on Frontline Gamer: Review: SkyfallFrontline Gamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-57418891589082580172012-11-05T17:15:25.166+00:002012-11-05T17:15:25.166+00:00I totally missed it in the previous Craig movies t...I totally missed it in the previous Craig movies to be honest. I watched them the week before seeing Skyfall just because I never got around to it but it did not register at all. If so then yeah, no character development at all for him. I don't remember the Dalton movies at all, other than 8-10 year old me not liking him and wandering off for most of them. I really enjoyed it and I think you kind of have to take it in the spirit of the anniversary. If you expect it to stand up as a piece of modern film then it's just.... old hat.Arquinsielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290858295232803685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-40198240945037338882012-11-05T16:49:40.427+00:002012-11-05T16:49:40.427+00:00Except we already new about being orphaned at an e...Except we already new about being orphaned at an early age from Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and indeed some previous Timothy Dalton Bond films I think. It was hammy and badly done, the script writing team need to hang there heads in shame over how they handled it.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-43487548431074530612012-11-05T16:44:52.258+00:002012-11-05T16:44:52.258+00:00You also know where he comes from now and it gives...You also know where he comes from now and it gives him that whole "orphaned at an early age" excuse for him being a dick.<br /><br />I didn't say it was <i>good</i>, just that it exists :pArquinsielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290858295232803685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-61004681731278944662012-11-05T16:10:53.379+00:002012-11-05T16:10:53.379+00:00You are more than welcome to respectfully disagree...You are more than welcome to respectfully disagree Arquinsiel, but I stand by every single point I've made, and every criticism of it as a film. I also take issue with the linked review as well, cgaracter development? Who, where and what!!! Sorry I just don't see it. James Bond crying near the end of the film isn't character development. :PFrontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-25109798147150332692012-11-05T14:48:35.200+00:002012-11-05T14:48:35.200+00:00I respectfully disagree: http://comicbuzz.com/2012...I respectfully disagree: http://comicbuzz.com/2012/10/skyfall-review/<br /><br />Taken outside the context of the anniversary you're spot on, but given the mystical number convergance see above.Arquinsielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290858295232803685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-34398191746399219822012-11-04T00:03:29.287+00:002012-11-04T00:03:29.287+00:00It's OK Ant, being irrational is a mans prerog...It's OK Ant, being irrational is a mans prerogative. You don't always have to have a reason in my book. Sometimes gut feeling is good enough. I happen to really like Daniel Craig as Bond.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-67939234057567523162012-11-01T22:15:24.443+00:002012-11-01T22:15:24.443+00:00Yeah the move from field agent to desk jockey for ...Yeah the move from field agent to desk jockey for Miss Moneypenny really, really pissed me off as well. As I said in the review, say what you like about Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace the females were powerful competent and complete characters. You can not say the same of the women in Skyfall. People have been saying M in this film proves shes in charge etc. etc. etc. I just did not view it that way at all. You might be right, there is something slightly worrying about it I guess, I'd just assumed it was a flip back to the tired old Bond Stereotypes, but hey, they're disturbing in modern society. Just so disappointing all round.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-70526886211070016952012-11-01T21:41:15.139+00:002012-11-01T21:41:15.139+00:00Why make Naomie Harris’ character go from a field ...Why make Naomie Harris’ character go from a field agent to Miss Moneypenny, the secretary? Why did they do that? To confirm the Bond fans’ belief that a female agent in a James Bond movie is not "his equal"? Why did they go this route?<br /><br />And why not allow M to retire, or like you said, kill her off at the beginning? Why paint her as a female authority figure who is too ruthless and out of control for her own good, who has to be saved by one man and replaced by another to bring back order?<br /><br />I don’t know. There is something disturbing about this movie.<br /><br />God, I miss "CASINO ROYALE" and "QUANTUM OF SOLACE".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-3481731255591357392012-10-31T14:53:11.031+00:002012-10-31T14:53:11.031+00:00I'm not arguing against Daniel Craig as James ...I'm not arguing against Daniel Craig as James Bond, I'm just arguing against Daniel Craig. I'm not even sure it can be called an argument - I just don't like him, I've got nothing to back it up with :D<br /><br />I grew up with Silly Bond, so to me, that IS what the franchise is. Even as a kid I knew that introducing yourself as "Bond, James Bond" when you're the guy who has upset every major criminal scheme in the last forty years was very silly (and that's the LEAST silly thing I could think of). When they try and mix that up and make it more realistic without a true "reboot" it just creates a dissonance for me I can't get around.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367202513244127126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-20671152633825914212012-10-31T13:19:13.371+00:002012-10-31T13:19:13.371+00:00Ah yes but you're on daddy duty so that's ...Ah yes but you're on daddy duty so that's your own fault! :P <br /><br />I can't feel sympathy for you. ;)<br /><br />But no, you aren't really missing much with Skyfall in my humble opinion. I think Javier, Daniel, Judy and Ralph did the best they could with the roles and scripts they were given. But even that array of undeniable acting talent couldn't fix what was a poor script, and terrible story.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-82287803877227987302012-10-31T13:17:05.349+00:002012-10-31T13:17:05.349+00:00Yeah as a 60's period piece it might work, but...Yeah as a 60's period piece it might work, but I thought the Casino Royale reboot was an interesting one, and one that explained why there were so many James Bonds. Simply put it was a code name designated to the 007 agent. Simple. They were all different agents operating in different times. Fully acceptable and allowed for the franchise to move with the times and reconcile any inconsistencies. Mendes has totally blown that out of the water in a cack handed way.<br /><br />Do report back with your thoughts once you've seen it. Just remember what has been seen can not be unseen!!!Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-31874440761970499412012-10-31T13:14:13.306+00:002012-10-31T13:14:13.306+00:00Well if you didn't like Casino Royale, you'...Well if you didn't like Casino Royale, you'd definitely hate QoS. I have to disagree though with you over Daniel Craig. He's the first Bond that actually looks like he was capable of looking after himself. Lets be honest Moore and Connery look like a gaggle of small children could take them out. Brosnan was a good mix of Moore and Connery, but still looked far to concerned with his hair. The only other vaguely competent looking Bond was Dalton.<br /><br />As for silly Bond being the best Bond... I'm not so sure. Those films are of their time and work because of that. But those Bond films don't really fit into the world as it stands in 2012. You are right though, the Bourne films kick Bonds ass right now for gritty espionage realism and cool stunts. But Casino Royale I felt managed to get close to that while still having the glitz and glam of the Bond franchise. Skyfall I'm not so enamoured with.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-34418601125686498722012-10-31T12:44:15.514+00:002012-10-31T12:44:15.514+00:00Not going to bother watching it until I can rent i...Not going to bother watching it until I can rent it for a couple of quid, and even then only when there's nothing better on. I HATED Casino Royale, didn't even bother with QoS, and just have a massive "GET OFF MY SCREEN, CRAIG" problem.<br /><br />Silly Bond is still best Bond, Bourne is still best Gritty Bond.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367202513244127126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-6023198718302881622012-10-31T12:17:35.814+00:002012-10-31T12:17:35.814+00:00I do not think I have seen the last one. I might ...I do not think I have seen the last one. I might even have my in-laws dvd copy around my house someplace. My wife and I do not get out to the movies much. Good to know I am not missing much here. I do not expect to see a non-animated movie again until the Hobbit come out. I pushed off taking my daughter to any of the halloween type movies this year but I think I am going to have to take her to see Wreck it Ralph this weekend or next.eriochromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10377904099582258296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-65507295748529608022012-10-31T10:57:42.743+00:002012-10-31T10:57:42.743+00:00Been saying for some time Bond should have been re...Been saying for some time Bond should have been relaunched as a 60's period piece and based far more closely on the flemming novels...<br /><br />Going tonight, will add my 2p here then.Sorrowshardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685765304265071914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-5714971407772438552012-10-30T21:22:03.844+00:002012-10-30T21:22:03.844+00:00I'm glad you enjoyed the film Phyllion. As I s...I'm glad you enjoyed the film Phyllion. As I say in my response to eria, if you turn your brain off and just accept it I'm sure all the fight scenes and stunts will be entertainment enough. Perhaps I just need more from my films. Or if I'm going for pure action films I want them to be pure action films like The Raid.<br /><br />I wouldn't disagree on QoS, there were some redeeming features, but it was in and of itself a miss step. It was too long and too bloated... but so to is Skyfall. It's 143 minutes and towards the end it felt like 1430 minutes. QoS was 106 wasn't it and CR 144? I can't remember.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-42115420991270630862012-10-30T20:56:03.509+00:002012-10-30T20:56:03.509+00:00Interesting. Fair points all. But you know what? I...Interesting. Fair points all. But you know what? I enjoyed it. A lot. It was absolute tripe, but entertaining tripe nonetheless. Of all the things you rant about, the one thing that did really grate on me was the one-Bond thing, totally unnecessary and yes, pointless. <br /><br /> Quantum of Solace, however, was an absolute shocker. Dreadful, utter tripe, a terrible villain, too slow, too long and oh-so boring. I did actually fell asleep. <br />Phyllionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451215894349113521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-18936390118541389982012-10-30T20:46:52.946+00:002012-10-30T20:46:52.946+00:00Don't you DARE mention that film on my Blog ev...Don't you DARE mention that film on my Blog ever again, or I'll have you cursed by a horde of Gypsies!!! Bloody Prometheus... so far up it's own badly written pompous ass it was licking it's own tonsils. <br /><br />Now I hear he wants to ruin Blade Runner as well... George Lucas MkII. Except Ridley Scott's films were actually very good, whereas Georges films were just crap, but cool.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-4442461090936550052012-10-30T20:25:32.927+00:002012-10-30T20:25:32.927+00:00Well, at least it can't be as bad as Prometheu...Well, at least it can't be as bad as Prometheus. :)SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-1014361410654009452012-10-30T20:21:52.710+00:002012-10-30T20:21:52.710+00:00Sigh... I forgot to mention that, but in the cinem...Sigh... I forgot to mention that, but in the cinema, I thought under my breath, but clearly it wasn't as I got an elbow in the ribs, I said "keep bloody shooting women". Yeah that was irritating too.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-10489125006240609602012-10-30T19:37:06.021+00:002012-10-30T19:37:06.021+00:00I lost all respect for the film when with her firs...I lost all respect for the film when with her first shot moneypenny shoots bond off the top of the train and then sits there with 29 rounds in the magazine and watches the bad guy get away.ItsPughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684926353433901589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-36536583413400854872012-10-30T19:27:31.338+00:002012-10-30T19:27:31.338+00:00I really don;t know whether they get what they had...I really don;t know whether they get what they had on their hands with CR. Honestly take away the fact it was a Bond film and it still bloody rocked. throw in the fact that it was still clearly a Bond film and they hit a rich vein of gold in my opinion. I shame they seem to have lost it again.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-55418956371225360782012-10-30T19:09:54.010+00:002012-10-30T19:09:54.010+00:00Very good review.
I was disappointed with QoS, s...Very good review. <br /><br />I was disappointed with QoS, since I felt like it was a regression in terms of story, characters, and tech-dependence compared to CR. But this sounds even worse. Do the Bond producers even understand what they achieved with CR? It seems not.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-32797071148636445632012-10-30T18:39:59.242+00:002012-10-30T18:39:59.242+00:00If you turn your brain off, ignore the dialogue an...If you turn your brain off, ignore the dialogue and try as hard as you can to not try to follow the plot there are plenty of pretty pictures to look at. Plus explosions, people like explosions, right? It's a no brainer (how apt during zombie week) film that thinks it's smart... and that's also part of the problem for me. If it knew it was just a dumb action film with attractive ladies in it, it wouldn't be so bad. The problems arise because it thinks it's more than that.Frontline Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110901356802705087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1448296907784874327.post-80962714023338607142012-10-30T18:34:37.088+00:002012-10-30T18:34:37.088+00:00"If you are a fan of the previous two Daniel ..."If you are a fan of the previous two Daniel Craig Bond's, and like the direction the reboot was taking, there's a damn good chance you'll positively hate Skyfall"<br /><br />This little bit deflated every good expectation I had for this film. Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing it. I probably still will, but at least I'll know not to expect too much.Aeria_Glorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809554922625492683noreply@blogger.com